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You're Born Into It?
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Admin on August 17, 2025, 12:00 pm
We've all heard Roger’s analogy of the bull and cow in the farmer’s field: if the animals produce a calf, that calf belongs to the farmer. This, he explains, is how the feudal system functions—you are born into it.
Applying the same analogy, when two U.S. citizens have a child, that child is presumed to be under the jurisdiction of the federal government.
My question is this: if two nationals have a child, is that child automatically recognized as a national as well? Or is it necessary to immediately file a Minor’s Affidavit and decline the issuance of a birth certificate, if the birth certificate even matters?
What are your thoughts?
We've all heard Roger’s analogy of the bull and cow in the farmer’s field: if the animals produce a calf, that calf belongs to the farmer. This, he explains, is how the feudal system functions—you are born into it.
Applying the same analogy, when two U.S. citizens have a child, that child is presumed to be under the jurisdiction of the federal government.
My question is this: if two nationals have a child, is that child automatically recognized as a national as well? Or is it necessary to immediately file a Minor’s Affidavit and decline the issuance of a birth certificate, if the birth certificate even matters?
What are your thoughts?
National Status Admin
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Quote from
David on August 18, 2025, 11:36 am
Interesting. Logically, I would agree that a baby would be born as a National if both parents were Nationals. My guess though is that the inherent context of the 14th Amendment places that baby at birth directly into the U.S. citizenship status and is presumed this status until either the parents file an affidavit for their child or the individual reaches adulthood and does it themselves. I also agree that the birth certificate is not the cause of U.S. citizenship but just represents it and a U.S. citizen's subsequent monetized servitude to the U.S. federal government.
Interesting. Logically, I would agree that a baby would be born as a National if both parents were Nationals. My guess though is that the inherent context of the 14th Amendment places that baby at birth directly into the U.S. citizenship status and is presumed this status until either the parents file an affidavit for their child or the individual reaches adulthood and does it themselves. I also agree that the birth certificate is not the cause of U.S. citizenship but just represents it and a U.S. citizen's subsequent monetized servitude to the U.S. federal government.
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Admin on August 18, 2025, 12:07 pm
What if that same baby's grandparent's were nationals? And their parent's were nationals, we'd be free and clear of the whole mess.
What if that same baby's grandparent's were nationals? And their parent's were nationals, we'd be free and clear of the whole mess.
National Status Admin
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